shoulders too tight to hold bar behind the neck for squats/good mornings

[Dieselry]

i wasnt able to do sqauts because of a knee problem but i found out my problem doing good mornings. i am trying to bring up my lower back so i wanted to incorporate goodmornings. so it was acutally teh FIRST time i had ever done a good morning. while setting up i could not hold the bar comfortably behind my neck (the same position for a squat i am asumming) i had to hold the bar as far as i could almost to the ends and it was STILL uncomfortable even after that. what is causing this? overdevloped front delts? underdevloped rear delts?

[needtolosequick]

stop being a pussy?

[unknownkonrtist]

stop being a pussy?

HAHAHA! Pwned.

[getfitdoc]

put the bar lower on your back

build up your upper back muscles, stretch the **** out of your chest

use a safety squat bar if you have access to one.

[Drako]

what is causing this? overdevloped front delts? underdevloped rear delts?

A pic would help answer this more acuratley

Try stretch out your shoulders dc style that should sort them out.

Also try deadlifts and weighted backraises instead of good mornings until you get your flexability back.

[Dieselry]

yeah thanks needtolose for your comment

..anyway as i was saying
is it cause it my chest is to tight.

[Drako]

A pic would help answer this more acuratley
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How old are you how long you been liftin for all we know it could be athritis.

[needtolosequick]

yeah thanks needtolose for your comment

..anyway as i was saying
is it cause it my chest is to tight.

If you're too swole to squat you should stop lifting because you have become all that is man.

[ManOfMuscle]

No one smaller than 5'9 260 should be complaining about this.

[DADAWG]

No one smaller than 5'9 260 should be complaining about this.

well i stay a 260-300 usually and i have to hold the bar WIDE and false grip it to squat [ no i dont reccomend the false grip but its how i have adjusted as my back has gotten thicker] . i stretch for 5-10 minutes before squatting to get myself loosened up enough to put the bar down in the groove on my back instead of up to close to the neck.
ive developed the habit of stopping in nearly every door jam and useing it to stretch in , i just assume the closest thing to a squat grip that possible and lean into it .

[getfitdoc]

well i stay a 260-300 usually and i have to hold the bar WIDE and false grip it to squat [ no i dont reccomend the false grip but its how i have adjusted as my back has gotten thicker] . i stretch for 5-10 minutes before squatting to get myself loosened up enough to put the bar down in the groove on my back instead of up to close to the neck.
ive developed the habit of stopping in nearly every door jam and useing it to stretch in , i just assume the closest thing to a squat grip that possible and lean into it .

Do you ever use the Safety squat bar?

[DADAWG]

Do you ever use the Safety squat bar?

no . flexibility is something you have to fight for as you get older , i just decided to keep doing what i could . besides i dont think they allow safety squat bars in a PL contest lol .

[getfitdoc]

no they don't

I always read about simmons using them, he seems to love the SS bar.

I like it. It makes 225 seem like 300 though

I used it after I tore my rotator cuff because I couldn't hold the regular bar, to much pain. Held me over till shoulder healed

[ManOfMuscle]

well i stay a 260-300 usually and i have to hold the bar WIDE and false grip it to squat [ no i dont reccomend the false grip but its how i have adjusted as my back has gotten thicker] . i stretch for 5-10 minutes before squatting to get myself loosened up enough to put the bar down in the groove on my back instead of up to close to the neck.
ive developed the habit of stopping in nearly every door jam and useing it to stretch in , i just assume the closest thing to a squat grip that possible and lean into it .

My point exactly. You sir are a behemoth and have a legitimate issue which you seem to have worked around. I'm assuming the thread starter is nowhere near this size.

[Mudge]

Going low down on the back does bother my shoulders, so it stays high wherever there is meat. You can wrap a towel around it too.

[Skarhead1]

no they don't

I always read about simmons using them, he seems to love the SS bar.

I like it. It makes 225 seem like 300 though

I used it after I tore my rotator cuff because I couldn't hold the regular bar, to much pain. Held me over till shoulder healed

im training at westside now and in order to save their shoudlers they always use a cambered bar , ssb bar or a buffalo bar. almost never use a regular straight bar.. . they also do a ton of shoulder work. Louie spends about 30 min a day every day on prehab work for the shoulder... you shoul ddefinitely look into flexiblity work

the thing about the ssb bar it works your DL a bit more than your squat muscles. it's a great bar though.

[ManOfMuscle]

So straight bar squatting is bad for your shoulders all of a sudden?

[Skarhead1]

So straight bar squatting is bad for your shoulders all of a sudden?

it can be when you have a ton of weight on your back week in week out. Those guys regularly do 800-1000 lb squats,

[ManOfMuscle]

Yeah thats nuts.

[Skarhead1]

Yeah thats nuts.

sure is, then couple with that most of them are raw benching in the 450 range and the 240+++ guys are raw benching 500 week in week out. eventually the shoulders need a break for them.

[ManOfMuscle]

sure is, then couple with that most of them are raw benching in the 450 range and the 240+++ guys are raw benching 500 week in week out. eventually the shoulders need a break for them.

If I were that strong I wouldn't max out often. I know that's part of the westside credo though.

[getfitdoc]

Hey Skar, do you keep a training log on here?

[DADAWG]

it can be when you have a ton of weight on your back week in week out. Those guys regularly do 800-1000 lb squats,

combined with 600 plus pound bench presses. also louie simmons is almost old enough to have served in WW2 lol . it is amazeing what he can lift for any age much less a man that old.

[Skarhead1]

If I were that strong I wouldn't max out often. I know that's part of the westside credo though.

to save CNS fatigue they switch exercises to maxout on each week. they max out twice a week sometimes 3..

Hey Skar, do you keep a training log on here?

no u can find it on ironaddicts , i will keep one here next year maybe if /when i go back

combined with 600 plus pound bench presses. also louie simmons is almost old enough to have served in WW2 lol . it is amazeing what he can lift for any age much less a man that old.

he's still good for an easy 800 squat, ive seen him deadlift 700++ quite a few times.

[ManOfMuscle]

to save CNS fatigue they switch exercises to maxout on each week. they max out twice a week sometimes 3..

I don't see how that saves on cns fatigue, they are still maxing. I'm talking doing max outs once or twice a month.