Let's Settle This

[Joe_Average]

My favorite thing happened in the gym the other day. While im in the middle of a set of deadlifts, this guy says "you shouldn't drop the weight like that". And I tell him, I've gotten plenty of advice to the contrary: basically the negative is useless for DLs and it just strains your arms and shoulders unnecessarily.

So he gives me a look like i clearly don't know what im talking about and then goes back to his "workout", which from what i could tell consisted of alternating randomly between the leg press and extension machine with 5-10 minute intervals of chatting with people in between. He looked exhausted. lol

anyway, point is: Deadlift - controlled negative or just drop that shit?

[jcp2]

Thier really is no negative to a deadlift. Only up. I drop it.

[needtolosequick]

I do a controlled drop. I can't just drop that much weight on the floor, the gym would get bitter.

[Aztech]

I do a controlled drop. I can't just drop that much weight on the floor, the gym would get bitter.

same...but it makes enough noise to draw attention...this is when working over 500lbs.

at less, the controlled drop is pretty quiet.

[Juggernaut2148]

I do a controlled drop. I can't just drop that much weight on the floor, the gym would get bitter.

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[estray]

To me dropping it means you let go and the bar falls. I dont take my hands off the bar but there is definetly no negative.

[needtolosequick]

same...but it makes enough noise to draw attention...this is when working over 500lbs.

at less, the controlled drop is pretty quiet.

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To me dropping it means you let go and the bar falls. I dont take my hands off the bar but there is definetly no negative.

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[estray]

This reminds me, i work out of town in this particular city and the hotel has a little health club/gym. Its modest, mostly machines and they have 1 bench and a couple Barbells. So im there a couple months back and the owner is immediately in my face telling me she didnt want me deadlifting there anymore. Apparantly last time i was there i was "dropping" the bar and i broke it. Lol. I politely asked her how i could be dropping it if my hands never left the bar and she just replied with "those bars arent made to handle that much weight (450lbs lol)". I told her to go on you tube and look up Andy Bolton.

Stupid ****.

[Joe_Average]

Ya, im not saying just let go of the bar while its still at your waist. Thats a pancaked foot waiting to happen. But i definitely don't provide much resistance on the way down. At least so little that some guy felt he had to tell me about it.

estray, i would have mentioned that "dropping" the bar would actually place LESS stress on it. but that would have really made her feel dumb.

[JayC]

I prefer to control the weight going down as well.. but I don't use deads for power lifting. I use them for sports/athletic conditioning and also try and get the grip work going up and down as well.

[ManOfMuscle]

I have always set it down myself.

[Drako]

I perfer to control the weight down, I dont drop the weight on any other exercise so why deads? it would feel like half a rep. It would be like dropping the bar on your chest after a lift you just dont do it.

But then I aint liftin seriously heavy weight so Im not in the same boat as most the guys on here.

[getfitdoc]

the heavier it is, the more of a drop i'll use.

My favorite is to use a platform and bumper plates, I just toss that shit then..

But that's whats fun about olympic lifting and pwr cleans... throwing heavy weights around.

[Skarhead1]

Thier really is no negative to a deadlift. Only up. I drop it.

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[ManOfMuscle]

So those of us who set the weight down are doing twice as much work?

[Joe_Average]

well ... not as lopsided as I thought it would be. But Im sticking with dropping it.

who wears straps when they go heavy?

[ManOfMuscle]

I strap up. Dropping it just seems lazy to me.

[Drako]

I strap up. Dropping it just seems lazy to me.

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[Skarhead1]

So those of us who set the weight down are doing twice as much work?

No but you're wasting a lot more energy by controlling it when the bar goes down.

as for the noise, who really cares what your gym thinks? most of you train at a commercial gym -- if anything i would TRY and piss them off

[Skarhead1]

well ... not as lopsided as I thought it would be. But Im sticking with dropping it.

who wears straps when they go heavy?

I don't, but im going to start to on a rack pulls maybe. You definitely don't want to be one of those people who can deadlift 5-600+ but can't hold 405 w/o straps.

[Drako]

No but you're wasting a lot more energy by controlling it when the bar goes down.

Surley if your expending energy your still working the muscle.?

[estray]

Surley if your expending energy your still working the muscle.?

If its costing you reps on your upcoming sets then whats the point?

You cant compare the deadlift to bench or other lifts because its a very unique lift. Its not a 2 part lift. Those analogies you made are not applicable.

[estray]

If youre not doing it similar to this then youre doing it wrong.


YouTube - Deadlift 655 x 5

[Skarhead1]

If its costing you reps on your upcoming sets then whats the point?

You cant compare the deadlift to bench or other lifts because its a very unique lift. Its not a 2 part lift. Those analogies you made are not applicable.

exactly it does not have an eccentric phase, just a concentric

[Drako]

I dont set the weight down/ touch the floor with the weight til the end of the set I find it to keep a constant tention troughout the set, just a way Ive always done.

But like I said earlier my opinion may change as the weight goes up, but my focus has always been on contrlling the weight not just getting it up there.

Isnt that a powerlifters approach?