question about this simple stack

[budd_2040]

i dont want to take anything that will affect my hormone/testosterone levels so does anyone see anything wrong with taking creatine with ephedrine or creatine with clen? im thinking stacking it with either of those might allow me to lose any water that the creatine may cause as well.

if i do go with creatine im not sure whether i want to go with the regular monohydrate or the ethyl ester type. should dosage be kept at a certain amount to minimize water retention too? (180lbs, 6-7 % bf, 6ft)

[StoneColdNTO]

I'll move this to the Supplement forum for you.....

[budd_2040]

anyone??

[jynx]

dont do creatine and clen. neither will mess with testosterone. clen does play with the thyroid, correct me if im wrong. doing them both together kind of negate each other. clen gets rid of water and creatine stores it.

[budd_2040]

well ephedrine can act as a dirretic as well so does that mean you shouldnt take creatine and ephedrine? i also read somewhere that ephedrine can help bring back natural testosterone levels

[budd_2040]

bump..

[Vegas]

well ephedrine can act as a dirretic as well so does that mean you shouldnt take creatine and ephedrine?

As long as you take in enough water you should be fine. If you do dehydrate it can be dangerous however.

i also read somewhere that ephedrine can help bring back natural testosterone levels

Nope, it has no effect on your testosterone levels.

[budd_2040]

i like to cycle off ephedrine with some benedryl, then go back on. seems like my body might get used to taking ephedrine nonstop

[Vegas]

Always a good plan to take breaks from it.

[budd_2040]

ya thats what i was thinking too

[budd_2040]

cant clen cut body fat while creatine builds muscle..as with creatine ethyl ester there wouldnt be a worry of clen releasing body water since it really is transported only to muscle cells, unlike much of the monohydrate form..??