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 Endurance/Focus in the gym
Hey y'all...I was wondering what you guys use for endurance/focus when you work out?? Has anyone tried products like Biotest's Spike, SciVation's Xtend or Neurostim +C, or anything like that? One of my friends said to try creatine (!?), but I don't want to retain water or anything right now...
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Rookie
Buy some CEE Creatine to avoid the water retention. Do a search about CEE, I'm to tired to explain the difference and what brand to buy.
Last edited by itza2mer; 05-26-2005 at 12:36 AM.
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Try L-Tyrosine. It can be found in bulk for very cheap, PM me if you wish. I hated Neurostim, the taste alone made it not worth the $$$, not to mention I felt nothing from it. Tyrosine on the otherh and has given me energy and focus as its a precursor to epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, and thyroxine.
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L-Tyrosine is also great for treating depression, helps me anyway.
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 Originally Posted by itza2mer
L-Tyrosine is also great for treating depression, helps me anyway.
Very true. Same here.
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helps depression too ..
whats a good dosage of it to take.. would a local health store have it?
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another l-tyrosine advoate right here. I love the stuff. Take it with caffeine pre workout (if you want to use caffiene). I use 1g. Yes local healthfood store would have it.
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thanks..
do you take 1 gram of it once a day?? just pre-workout.
or everyday?
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I take it everyday, whether I train or not. 1g is right on the money.
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great, thanks yj ... u are always a good help.
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i went out and picked up some of the pills.
they are 500 mg capsules. i just read the back of my protein powder, and it says there is 2.5 g of l-tyrosine in it, for every 100 g of protein.
would this be too much?
anyways, im going to try the stuff out. how long before my workouts should i take the pills?
thanks
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Tyrosine is naturally occuring so its negative effects are a bit hard to reach. Ive read some people consuming up to 3g in a 3 hour period, this is called "super dosing" it, but I get the desired effects from 1g.
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shuold i just stick with my protein shake.. or cool taking the pills, you think>?
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Id throw a gram in my pre-workout shake, thats what Ive been doin for awhile and like it a lot.
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do you have it in powder form ?? the health store i checked out only had pills .
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 Originally Posted by YellowJacket
Try L-Tyrosine. It can be found in bulk for very cheap, PM me if you wish. I hated Neurostim, the taste alone made it not worth the $$$, not to mention I felt nothing from it. Tyrosine on the otherh and has given me energy and focus as its a precursor to epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, and thyroxine.
Say what? Neurostim HAS L-tyrosine in it. heh
Not sure how you say you feel nothing from a tyrosine-containing product, then go on to recommend tyrosine. Not tryin to be a prick, but that just amused me.
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 Originally Posted by AssItch
Say what? Neurostim HAS L-tyrosine in it. heh
Not sure how you say you feel nothing from a tyrosine-containing product, then go on to recommend tyrosine. Not tryin to be a prick, but that just amused me. 
Thats not all it has in it.... Tyrosine is the only product in Neurostim that I stand by, so frankly it's fairly easy to recommend Tyrosine even if its in Neurostim, well easy to those who follow along.....
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Junior Bodybuilder
I'm aware of that, and I'm a tyrosine user as well.
Neurostim has a healthy enough dose of tyrosine in it that you wouldn't "feel nothing" from it if you're a tyrosine responder.
Nevertheless, I prefer to buy the ingredients separately in powder form myself.
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The efficacy of Tyrosine differs greatly from the claims made by the product.... thats what I was referring to.
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Junior Bodybuilder
K, I can respect that. 
Back to the topic at hand, chocamine is a good addition as well.
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how many sups do you guys take??
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