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    Default Endurance/Focus in the gym
    Hey y'all...I was wondering what you guys use for endurance/focus when you work out?? Has anyone tried products like Biotest's Spike, SciVation's Xtend or Neurostim +C, or anything like that? One of my friends said to try creatine (!?), but I don't want to retain water or anything right now...

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    Buy some CEE Creatine to avoid the water retention. Do a search about CEE, I'm to tired to explain the difference and what brand to buy.
    Last edited by itza2mer; 05-26-2005 at 12:36 AM.

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    Try L-Tyrosine. It can be found in bulk for very cheap, PM me if you wish. I hated Neurostim, the taste alone made it not worth the $$$, not to mention I felt nothing from it. Tyrosine on the otherh and has given me energy and focus as its a precursor to epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, and thyroxine.

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    L-Tyrosine is also great for treating depression, helps me anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itza2mer
    L-Tyrosine is also great for treating depression, helps me anyway.

    Very true. Same here.

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    helps depression too ..

    whats a good dosage of it to take.. would a local health store have it?

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    another l-tyrosine advoate right here. I love the stuff. Take it with caffeine pre workout (if you want to use caffiene). I use 1g. Yes local healthfood store would have it.

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    thanks..

    do you take 1 gram of it once a day?? just pre-workout.

    or everyday?

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    I take it everyday, whether I train or not. 1g is right on the money.

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    great, thanks yj ... u are always a good help.

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    i went out and picked up some of the pills.

    they are 500 mg capsules. i just read the back of my protein powder, and it says there is 2.5 g of l-tyrosine in it, for every 100 g of protein.

    would this be too much?

    anyways, im going to try the stuff out. how long before my workouts should i take the pills?

    thanks

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    Tyrosine is naturally occuring so its negative effects are a bit hard to reach. Ive read some people consuming up to 3g in a 3 hour period, this is called "super dosing" it, but I get the desired effects from 1g.

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    shuold i just stick with my protein shake.. or cool taking the pills, you think>?

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    Id throw a gram in my pre-workout shake, thats what Ive been doin for awhile and like it a lot.

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    do you have it in powder form ?? the health store i checked out only had pills .

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    I use the powdered form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowJacket
    Try L-Tyrosine. It can be found in bulk for very cheap, PM me if you wish. I hated Neurostim, the taste alone made it not worth the $$$, not to mention I felt nothing from it. Tyrosine on the otherh and has given me energy and focus as its a precursor to epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine, and thyroxine.
    Say what? Neurostim HAS L-tyrosine in it. heh

    Not sure how you say you feel nothing from a tyrosine-containing product, then go on to recommend tyrosine. Not tryin to be a prick, but that just amused me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssItch
    Say what? Neurostim HAS L-tyrosine in it. heh

    Not sure how you say you feel nothing from a tyrosine-containing product, then go on to recommend tyrosine. Not tryin to be a prick, but that just amused me.

    Thats not all it has in it.... Tyrosine is the only product in Neurostim that I stand by, so frankly it's fairly easy to recommend Tyrosine even if its in Neurostim, well easy to those who follow along.....

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    I'm aware of that, and I'm a tyrosine user as well.

    Neurostim has a healthy enough dose of tyrosine in it that you wouldn't "feel nothing" from it if you're a tyrosine responder.

    Nevertheless, I prefer to buy the ingredients separately in powder form myself.

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    The efficacy of Tyrosine differs greatly from the claims made by the product.... thats what I was referring to.

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    K, I can respect that.

    Back to the topic at hand, chocamine is a good addition as well.

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    how many sups do you guys take??

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