long methyl-ated cycle???

[adidamps2]

ok i am planning on running a m1t, m1d, and mohn cycle....now if i figure this right i should get some awsome size and hardness out of this....ill give u the rough version of my plan and u guys let me know what u think( u know harshness on system, to low doses, to high, too long....)
wk1-4: 5mg/ed m1t (which acts like d-bol if i heard right,which means bulk and stength)also universals GH maxwww.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/ghmax.html will bee used 6 caps/ed for 30 days( i had so figured id take it)
wk4: 2mg/ed mohn (acts like anavar if i heard right, decent muscle mass with strength gains)
wk5-7: 6mg/ed mohn
wk7: 2mg/ed m1d (acts like winny if i heard right, leaner muscles with good strength gains)
wk8-12: 6mg/ed m1d
wk11-14: 6caps/ed 6-oxo and 3caps/ed gaspari's noedex extreme
wk15-16:4caps/ed 6-oxo and 2 caps/ed gaspari's novedex extreme
also i will be taking 1000mg/ed of milk thistlef rom start to finish
and runnig r-ala at 100mg/ed also thats the rough if u need to know my intended diet i can let u know too ( which follow use of methyls,m1t bulking high cals,mohn bulk but less cals and m1t cutting diet)but wasnt sure if it was neccassary....also im about 193.5 right now and 27 yrs old.....

[mranak]

Why do you want to run prohormones instead of real gear? I'm guessing it is because you stocked up on the prohormones or just have them around.

I can't recommend any particular regimen. If you do this, make certain you use real PCT auxilliaries (Clomid and/or Nolvadex) for PCT. "Novedex Extreme" is not Nolvadex.

[joshbeam1]

A while back, I ran a 10wk cycle of m1t then did 6 week pct w/nolva. Don't skimp on your pct, very important. 6oxo isn't all that great. Get nolva or clomid (the real stuff).Might look into taking some bvitamins and milk thistle. I also felt glucosamine/chondrotine/msm helped out my joints alot from the added stress I put on them thru my cycle. Gained alot of mass/strength. Put on something like 24lbs, but about 8-10lbs was water weight.
If I were u i'd up the dose on the m1t, but heard some people have good luck w/low doses 2. Good luck.

[adidamps2]

Why do you want to run prohormones instead of real gear? I'm guessing it is because you stocked up on the prohormones or just have them around.

yeah u hit it on the head i stocked up b4 bann now im just tryin to figure out how i wanna run them/use them........i have ran a 3 wk cycle of just m1t, low doses 5-10 mg/ed b4 and only used gasparis novedx for 3 weeks following it, but i see the concerns for real pct since im goin to run such a long cycle.......also as far as bvits im using beverly internationals super pak which has way more bvits than one should ever need plus ill be using spring-valley B-50 from walmart...and like i said ill be using 1000mg/ed of milk thistle and 100mg/ed of r-ala for liver support.....i guess my other concern would be is this too long of a cycle for methyl-ated products and what else should i use for liver support or are the milk thistle and r-ala enough???

[RRAdam]

Looks like you are trying to get too ambitious with this cycle. stick to one compound, run it with some test of 4ad.

2mg of mohn would be absolutely worthless - you need at least 30 IMO... I like 40
mdien turned out to be pretty much a flop - some people got some results are higher dosages.

these compounds are not prohormones - they are steroids - and you do need REAL nolvadex if you plan on running them - especially m1t.

[adidamps2]

Looks like you are trying to get too ambitious with this cycle. stick to one compound, run it with some test of 4ad.

2mg of mohn would be absolutely worthless - you need at least 30 IMO... I like 40
mdien turned out to be pretty much a flop - some people got some results are higher dosages.

these compounds are not prohormones - they are steroids - and you do need REAL nolvadex if you plan on running them - especially m1t.

rradam the only reason for the 1 wk of 2mg/ed of Mohn is that i was thinking that the m1t was already being used at that time so i was thinking it would be like a "bridging" point??although the 4ad sounds good i do not have that on hand, i only have the m1t m1d and mohn.....and as far as the high doses u suggest im not sure if i want to run that high because when i ran m1t by itself i could not take in the 10mg/ed for long after 5 days my lower back pain was too intense so i had to lower the dose back down to 5 mg/ed..at the end of my 3 wk cycle i had gained roughly 15-17 lbs and kept most of my strength and mass for a few months untill other things came up that took me outta the gym...and as far as real pct nolva and clomid ....i am not too sure as were to get these items ....and am not sure i can can even ask that here would that be concidered a source check???also do u think im goin to use enough for liver support here...im guessingby ur first responce that i should try breaking these up and running each independed of each other....like a 4 wk on 4 wk off repeat with differnt compound...(ie 4wks of m1t/4wks off,4wks of mohn/4wks off,etc...). tanks for the responces here too...

[adidamps2]

bump 4 responces.......

[RRAdam]

I'd stick to one methylated compound... nolva and clomid can be found @ research-ology.com

5mg of m1t is on the low side, but it works well for quite a bit of people... though, those low dosages of mohn and mdien are going to do absolutely nothing.


just stick to m1t (though i wouldnt reccomend it without 4ad or test)
or run m4ohn @ 30mg (to start, and go up if you wish) for 6 weeks
or mdien at at least 12mg a day.

[Dlove]

I dunno man the money your gonna spend on all that stuff you otta just do a test d-bol cycle for 10 weeks. Cost ya about 4 bills then some clomid which is cheap. My guess is you were like I was I just couldn't poke myself I hated needles. After wasting so much money on suppliments I sucked it up and got some test. The shots dont hurt at all.

[RRAdam]

well, m1t is just as strong if not stronger than dbol - and mohn does work - if you already have them, might as well use them

[adidamps2]

i dunno what i was thinking at the time i knew prohormones were gonna get banned so stocked up...lol now im just tring to figure out how i wanna use them....cycle wise...also id luv to use 4ad w/my m1t but in my frenzy to buy all the m1t,mohn and m1d i could, i forgot about 4ad .....so no luck there...as far as 30mg/ed for mohn i dont have enough i got only 2 bottle of 90 caps each at 2 mg a pill.....thats a 12 day supply at ur dosage...but im guessing ill respond well to it do to the fact i did so well w/ the m1t at such a low dose...also are my comparisons of the compounds close??(ie: m1t=dbol,m1d=winny,mohn=anavar) or ares those not right? also no one has yet mentioned if my liver protectants i have chosen are going to be sufficiant(sp).and actually dlove i plan on doin a real cycle after i runn threw all this shit i have already but ur right if i wouldda thought about it i should just spent the $$$ on test and tren and went from there....oh well live and learn i guess..oh yea rradam are the the stuff at researchology and universal kits good to go outta the package or do u need to do stuff to them???

[adidamps2]

rrradam as sit here and think about it do u have a better cycle protocol to use???with what i have???i have 2 bottle of M1d at 1mg/ea 100 pills a bottle, and 2 bottles of mohn 90 pills ea at 2mg/pill, and enough m1t for a small army....like 5 bottles of 120 pills at 5mg/ea and 1 bottle of legal gear 90 pills at 10mg/ea....

[RRAdam]

well, bout the only thing you have enough of is m1t - you could run it by itself if you are feeling frisky, but I do not reccomend it.

[adidamps2]

yea i have done that b4....the legargy killed me, but over all it wasnt all that bad.....gains were good over a 3 wk peroid....and never went over 10mg like i said b4....i may just do that again...also i dont know if u read it or not but are the stuff at researchology and universal kits good to go outta the box or are there mixing processes involved.....and how do u use these items inject oral???

[RRAdam]

they are oral - ready to go.

[adidamps2]

great that takes care of that ill be order some asap.......what dosage and such should i use or is that that all included too.......

[adidamps2]

hey rradam would stacking 5mg m1t ed with 6 mg of mohn ed be effective???

[RRAdam]

I'm not fond of stacking methyls... In this case, 6mg of mohn is going to do little if any good.

[adidamps2]

damn it...ok i guess i was thinkin that 5 mg of m1t plus 6mg ohn would work together like dbol and anavar but i guess ur right...i still havent started this cycle yet ill be starting a 4 week m1t cycle next week of 5 mg/ed follewed up by clen, clomi, and tamox all from research-ology..how long should i use these compounds for for pct i have never used these b4 for pct only over the counter stuff like 6 oxo im just curiouse how much and how long i should them i know the clen is 2 wks on 2 wks off but the clomi and tamox im unfamailour with dosage and legth of time on. thanks rradam for all ur help so far..

[adidamps2]

bump....

[adidamps2]

bump 2 rradam.....

[adidamps2]

Bump

[gotti]

..bla,, i try the pro harmones,, and to tell u the truth all i got was side effects mood swings acne ,,etc 700 bucks later i fealt like a hamster in a labb ,at least we know the sides of the real juicy ,those im not to sure what they will be, sell then to ur friend or feed the dogs with it they be humping alot ..u might gain like 10 pounds and it might be the protein intake ,dint have a good experience with them ,good luck,,