The new primo/deca/eq KILLER?

[alwayson]

Have you guys tried the 4ad cyp product offered by a certain underground lab?

I know some guys on another board, and they agree with the product's description.

It is primo-like, but better.

Some of you guys are going to say this is some crappy prohormone. WRONG.

The 4ad molecule is 99.5% that of testosterone, and thus I postulate it has its OWN intrinsic activity.


I hear some good things about another product also. OH test has awesome feedback and a good profile in anabolics 2005.

[JohnnyB]

No I haven't

JohnnyB

[jcp2]

moved to the appropriate forum. This seems more like an add to me, but i will leave it in supp forum.

[alwayson]

hey bro, this is not an ad.

I have no affiliation with these products lol.

I was just exploring these compounds.


why would you put it in the supplement forum by the way?

these are illegal steroids, atleast in the U.S.

my interest was peaked when I heard the good results from these compounds, nothing more.

[StoneColdNTO]

why would you put it in the supplement forum by the way?

these are illegal steroids

Hahaha .....no there are actually illegal SUPPLEMENTS.

[alwayson]

all these compunds are just newly released steroids, NOT supplements.

they are now illegal as of january 2005.

now they are EXACTLY like steroids.


PLEASE, remember that the vast majority of the so called "prohormones" such as m1t, 1test, OHtest were not really prohormones at all.


They were just steroids that were not yet put on the banned substance list

1test and OH test, for example look almost exactly like testosterone, just like primo, deca etc.

[alwayson]

BTW i'm talking about injectable products here lol, defintitely not supplements in that aspect

[RRAdam]

well, steroids could be considered supplements.

4ad is a prohormone - but illegal. it exerts some anabolic/androgenic potential on its own, but its main effect comes from its target hormone - testosterone.

4ad cyp is basically a less effecient form of test cyp. Some seem to like it though, touting primo like effects. I dont see this from 4ad. I see the basic effects from test.

1test would be more like primo, since they are almost chemically identical.

[alwayson]

yes, finally someone on the right track!!


However, I believe 4ad probably has its own intrinisc activity (i.e. forget about the conversion to test. )


Now a totally different animal; 1test is almost exactly the structure of primo. But 1test is about 10 times more anabolic than primo acording to anabolics 2005. I believe this is due to the lack of primo's methylation. 1test is a potent steroid, and very tren like.

no wonder those old 1test users were gaining 20 pounds even though they were using crappy delivery systems like oral and trandermal.

[alwayson]

hey I'm getting a ton of PM's

the lab I was talking about was dpharm.

I just realized the OHtest product these bros were using was some homebrew.

[StoneColdNTO]

This seems more like an add to me,

....and you called it right again !!

[RRAdam]

yes, finally someone on the right track!!


However, I believe 4ad probably has its own intrinisc activity (i.e. forget about the conversion to test. )


Now a totally different animal; 1test is almost exactly the structure of primo. But 1test is about 10 times more anabolic than primo acording to anabolics 2005. I believe this is due to the lack of primo's methylation. 1test is a potent steroid, and very tren like.

no wonder those old 1test users were gaining 20 pounds even though they were using crappy delivery systems like oral and trandermal.

yes, 4ad has its own intrinsic anabolic action, but not quite as high compared to test. the anabolic/androgenic percentage comparison doesnt hold much water, as it almost never applies in real life (wasnt androstenedione supposed to be 500000% more anabolic than test)

You may have it backwards, primo is 1test with a 1-methylation. it is just 5 alpha reduced EQ. transdermal delivery is not a terrible mode of delievery, but many people absolutely love 1test cyp, since it has a superior route of adminstration. many people do compare it to tren. I have used high dosages of 1test transdermal, tren, 4ad, and test. 1test is potent indeed, as are test, eq, dbol and the likes, but it is not necessarily superior to any of them. It serves its purpose, and does what it is supposed to do. 4ad on the otherhand is weaker in comparison to most other hormones, due to the fact, as i said before, most of its benefit comes from the target hormone.

[alwayson]

i agree almost 100%

what is your opinion of OHtest?

[RRAdam]

On its own, its not much... its really great when you combine with some test or 4ad though.