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    Default Protein Powders .... What's the Difference?
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    Whey Protein Concentrate

    whey protein concentrate is derived from
    sweet dairy whey (milk). The process is through an ion-exchanged
    filtering process in which fat, lactose, carbohydrates and
    other materials are removed from the final product. Whey
    Protein Concentrate can be sourced at 35% to 80% protein
    per final product. We at True Protein only offer Whey Protein
    Concentrate at its highest ratio, 77-80%.

    Whey Protein Concentrate is considered the most economical
    choice when buying a protein powder. Whey protein in general
    is known for its extremely quick and fast digestion, it is great
    for post workout shakes as well as anytime you need a quick
    burst of amino acids. Though, an excellent source of BCAA’s,
    assimilation and digestion through the intestines is lessened
    because of remaining products left in the filtering process.
    Fat, lactose and the like, leave some users bloated and
    gaseous.

    Whey Protein Concentrate possesses a very bland flavor.
    The mouth texture is very smooth and is easily mixed in a
    shaker or blender. Since this is an instantized protein, it
    mixes easily with a spoon as well.

    Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration

    Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration is derived
    from whey protein concentrate, but ultimately from
    sweet dairy whey. Isolates, Cold-Filtration, Microfiltration and
    Ion-Exchange, are protein powders that are the next steps to
    further process whey protein concentrate. The
    Cold-Filtration process is a procedure of separating the proteins
    through the use of micro filtering the mass all while using a cold
    or “chilled” process (environment). These filters allow the protein
    to be removed from the unwanted fat, lactose and the like.
    Cold-Filtration Isolate is virtually fat free and lactose (sugar) free.

    So what is the difference between Cold-Filtration and Microfiltration?
    They both use the same extraction process of filtering, but the
    Cold-Filtration is just that, the liquid mass is chilled and then
    filtered. As well the mass is then sprayed dried in a non heat
    environment to preserve the undenatured proteins.

    Using the Cold-Filtration method, the overall protein is said to only
    be 0-3% denatured, in comparison to other proteins that can be denatured
    up to 15%. Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration is very high in bioactive
    whey protein fractions, including immunoglobulin, lactoferrin and
    glycomacropeptides.

    Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration is a great whey
    protein for users who experience bloating and other problems
    associated with whey protein concentrate. As well, users who
    want a higher protein percentage per product, an Isolate is a
    great choice.

    Whey Protein Isolate Cold-Filtration possesses an
    extremely clean taste. This product alone is opaque in nature
    (almost clear) and does not have any distinct flavor. Great for the
    individual that dislikes the taste of “protein powders.

    Whey Protein Isolate Ion-Exchange

    Whey Protein Isolate Ion-Exchange is derived
    from whey protein concentrate, but ultimately from sweet dairy
    whey. Isolates, Microfiltration Cold-Filtration and Ion-Exchange,
    are protein powders that are the next steps to further process
    whey protein concentrate. The Ion-Exchange process is a
    procedure of separating the proteins through their specific
    electrical charge. Chemical reagents allow the electric charge
    of the protein to be controlled and then extracted. Ion-Exchange
    Isolate is virtually fat free and lactose (sugar) free. The extraction
    process leaves the final product almost all protein, around 96%
    protein.

    Whey Protein Isolate Ion-Exchange is a great whey protein for
    users who experience bloating and other problems associated
    with whey protein concentrate. As well, users who want a higher
    protein percentage per product, an Isolate is a great choice.

    Whey Protein Isolate Ion-Exchange possesses an extremely
    clean taste. This product alone is opaque in nature (almost clear)
    and does not have any distinct flavor. Great for the individual that
    dislikes the taste of 'protein powders'.

    Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration

    Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration is derived
    from whey protein concentrate, but ultimately from
    sweet dairy whey. Isolates, Microfiltration Cold-Filtration and
    Ion-Exchange, are protein powders that are the next steps to
    further process whey protein concentrate. The
    Microfiltration process is a procedure of separating the proteins
    through the use of natural ceramic filters. These filters allow the
    protein to be removed from the unwanted fat, lactose and the like.
    Microfiltration Isolate is virtually fat free and lactose
    (sugar) free.

    True Protein carries 3 different types of Whey Protein Isolates,
    Ion-Exchange , Cold-Filtration and Mircofiltration. Ion-Exchange uses
    electrical charge and chemicals to extract the protein, but
    Mircofiltration uses a more natural way of extracting protein through
    filters. Microfiltration Isolates are left with more calcium
    and give the user the highest level of undenatured protein available.
    The extraction process leaves the final product almost all protein,
    around 92% protein.

    Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration is a great whey
    protein for users who experience bloating and other problems
    associated with whey protein concentrate. As well, users who
    want a higher protein percentage per product, an Isolate is a
    great choice.

    Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration possesses an
    extremely clean taste. This product alone is opaque in nature
    (almost clear) and does not have any distinct flavor. Great for the
    individual that dislikes the taste of “protein powders.

    Calcium Caseinate

    Calcium Caseinate is manufactured and derived
    from fresh skim milk. Calcium Caseinate protein is extracted from
    casein through acidification, which in turn, provides the user
    with a slow digesting protein. This slow digesting time leads to
    anti-catabolic properties and gives the user a feeling of being fuller
    longer.

    Calcium Caseinate, like our other fresh skim milk derived proteins
    is very high in glutamine, an amino acid essential to muscle building.
    Since this protein possesses slow digesting properties, we
    recommend mixing this protein with faster absorbing proteins
    (whey), for a well rounded custom mix. True Protein also recommends
    using Calcium Caseinate before going to sleep at night (anti-catabolic),
    to keep amino acids working their magic for hours after you fall asleep.

    Calcium Caseinate possesses a fairly bland taste. The mouth
    texture is fairly smooth but with all casein type proteins, they do possess a somewhat chalky mouth feel. Casein typeproteins in general also have a much thicker consistancy than a whey might have, so mixing quantites should be less. It is also easily mixed in a shaker or blender.

    Egg White Protein

    Egg White Protein is derived from chicken egg
    whites. It is processed by removing the yolk and then converting
    the egg white product in powdered form. Many individuals love
    this product because it allows them to intake more eggs than
    their body usually allows. Egg White protein gauges very high
    on the protein effeciancy rating (P.E.R) a 3.9 out of 4.0.

    Egg White Protein provides an excellent combination and
    profile of amino acids. Egg White Protein also possesses a
    high level of sulfur which is essential to various hormonal
    pathways within the body. This increased production of anabolic
    hormones leads to increased muscle mass.

    We recommend you mix Egg White Protein within many of
    your custom mixes. It possesses a bland taste to slightly salty taste,
    and makes a custom mixture very well rounded. Egg White Protein is
    instantized and easily mixes with a shaker or blender.

    Hyrdrolyzed Casein

    Hydrolyzed Casein is derived from fresh
    skim milk. Hydrolyzed Casein is processed and extracted
    from casein protein, which is then specially prepared into
    an enzymatic hydrolysate. This process provides the user
    with a rich source of short chain peptides and amino acids.

    Though Casein and Caseinate proteins are known for there
    slow digestion, Hydrolyzed Casein is still assimilated by
    the body very quickly. Since it is a hydrostat the proteins
    are partially digested, up to 80% of the proteins bypass the
    stomach and are absorbed directly through the small intestine.

    Studies have shown that Hydrolyzed Casein might be the best
    protein for building muscle and preventing catabolism (muscle
    breakdown). Studies have also shown that hydrolyzed proteins
    with short chain amino acids (di and tri peptides) can increase
    IGF-1.

    Hydrolyzed Casein is a great product, but again like many of
    our other hydrolyzed proteins, this product is extremely bitter.
    When custom mixing your own blends, keep Hydrolyzed Casein
    below 25% for a good tasting product. We recommend you order
    your Hydrolyzed Casein separate to see how much the bitterness
    effects you.

    Micellar Casein

    Micellar Casein is derived from milk protein
    isolate. The process of extraction is a natural and gental
    removal of all whey protein peptides, which leaves you with
    a pure Micellar Casein. Micellar Casein is a newer protein
    product, the process of manufacturing is only a few years old.
    You will not see many big name manufacturers using this product,
    mainly because it hurts their bottom line (to expensive). This
    protein powder can be considered the best of the best and the
    purest when coming to caseinate proteins.

    Micellar Casein is completely undenatured and is chock full
    of sub-fractions and growth factors. This is great for overall
    muscle tissue repair and helps greatly in recovery. Since
    Micellar Casein is a caseinate, absorption is slower than whey
    products, therefore this is a great protein that has anti-catabolic
    properties as well.

    Micellar Casein possesses a bland taste, but with all casein type
    proteins, they do possess a somewhat chalky mouth feel. Casein type
    proteins in general also have a much thicker consistancy than
    a whey might have, so mixing quantites should be less.
    Micellar Casein is an instantized protein so it can easily be
    mixed in a shaker or blender.

    Milk Protein Isolate

    Milk Protein Isolate is derived from both
    casein and whey products from fresh skim milk. The
    process of extraction is through an ultra filtration process
    that leaves the end product and Isolate. Since both casein
    and whey are used in the processing, Milk Protein Isolate
    possesses a high nutritional value. This is a great product
    for individuals that are lactose intolerant, Milk Protein
    Isolate is nearly lactose free.

    Though Milk Protein Isolate is not used widely as separate
    whey and casein proteins, individuals will love the results
    they get from this clean and fresh tasting product. Milk Protein
    Isolate provides the user with a quick burst of amino acids
    (whey) as well as a longer lasting, slow digesting protein
    (casein). Users with find this product possesses a great
    combination of anabolic and anticatabolic properties.

    Milk Protein Isolate possesses a fairly bland flavor. The
    mouth texture is fairly smooth but with all casein type proteins,
    they do possess a somewhat chalky mouth feel. Casein type
    proteins in general also have a much thicker consistancy than
    a whey might have, so mixing quantites should be less. They
    also can be easily mixed in a shaker or blender.

    Soy Protein Isolate non-GMO

    Soy Protein Isolate is derived from defatted
    soybean flakes, but ultimately from non containing genetically
    modified organisms (non-GMO) soy beans. Soy Protein
    Isolate is extracted through a process of mixing soybean
    flakes with water or a mild alkali in a pH range of 8.5. The
    protein is then processed through precipitation to create a
    curd, then it is washed and spray-dryed to yield the isolate.
    This process leaves the end isolate very high in protein,
    around 90%.

    Recently Soy Protein Isolate has been in the media spot light,
    due to clashing opinions about is qualities and benefits.
    Through research, we at True Protein feel that Soy Protein
    Isolate has its place in the fitness arena. Soy Protein Isolate
    is the only complete protein derived from a non-animal source.
    This is very important for our vegetarian customers who greatly
    need a complete protein, but are not willing to use one from an
    animal source. Our Soy Isolate is also non-GMO, meaning the
    soybean where never genetically changed or altered, many
    experts believe non-GMO soy beans make food better tasting,
    and more nutritious.

    Soy Protein Isolate also has many unique characteristics.
    Studies have shown that a diet including soy products greatly
    reduces the chance of heart disease. Soy Protein Isolate also
    contains high levels of isoflavones, which have been found to
    have anti-estrogenic properties, which are very important to
    active men and women.

    We recommend you mix Soy Protein Isolate within many of
    your custom mixes. It possesses a fairly bland/earthy taste, is very
    economical, and makes a custom mixture very well rounded
    for various benefit reasons. Soy Protein Isolate is fairly thick
    and mixes easily with a shaker or blender.

    Whole Egg Protein

    True Protein’s Whole Egg Protein possesses many of the
    same attributes as our Egg White Protein. The process in
    which it is derived is from chicken whole eggs, which is then
    converted into a powder form. This product is great for the
    individual who is ectomorphic in general or is looking to get
    extra calories. The extra calories and fat allow the user to
    obtain both protein and fat within one mix. Whole Egg Protein
    provides an excellent combination and profile of amino acids.
    Whole Egg Protein also possesses a high level of sulfur which
    is essential to various hormonal pathways within the body.
    This increased production of anabolic hormones and increased
    calories leads to increased muscle mass.

    We recommend you mix Whole Egg Protein within your custom
    mix if you are looking for extra calories or fat. It possesses a
    bland/egg/semi-salty taste, is fairly economical for calorie content,
    and makes a custom mixture very well rounded. Whole Egg Protein
    has somewhat of thicker mouth feel to it, and easy mixes with a
    shaker or blender

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    Why isn't a complex carb (like ground oats) additive sold by TP? Could you do a quicky explanation of the available carbs as well?

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    Dextrose

    Dextrose is derived from natural corn
    starch. During this process the starch of the corn is
    exposed to acid and heat to partially digest and break
    down the starch into smaller polymers (monosaccharide).
    Dextrose is considered the natural occurring form of
    glucose, but dextrose is chemically an isomer of glucose.

    Dextrose has a sweet taste similar to table sugar (sucrose),
    but does not posess the sweetner strength of sucrose.
    Dextrose is about 20% less sweet. Dextrose easily mixes
    and dissolves in any liquid and needs no blending or
    vigorous shaking to be palatable.

    Fructose

    Fructose is derived from natural corn
    starch. During this process the starch of the corn is
    processed and isolated to present the raw form of fructose.
    Fructose is a monosaccharide and is one of the most
    common sugars around, some considered fructose as
    “fruit sugar”

    Why is fructose so important? First off fructose is over
    40% sweeter than regular table sugar (sucrose), so less
    is needed for your desired taste. Fructose is absorbed
    relatively slow compared to other sugars. Most sugar
    substances are metabolized primarily in the small intestine,
    fructose on the other hand is metabolized primarily in the liver.
    The amounts of insulin that is needed to metabolize fructose
    is very little as well as fructose’s properties of slow absorption
    place fructose low on the Glycemic Index (32, compared to 92
    sucrose, 99-100 dextrose). This low number on the glycemic
    index allows the body to have steadier blood sugar levels.
    All important factors when trying to attain optimal levels for
    an anabolic environment.

    Again Fructose has a sweet taste similar to table sugar (sucrose),
    but is about 40% stronger in sweetening ability. Fructose easily
    mixes and dissolves in any liquid and needs no blending or vigorous
    shaking to be palatable.

    Maltodextrin

    maltodextrin is derived from natural corn
    starch. During this process the starch of the corn is either
    exposed to acid or enzymes to partially digest and break
    down the starch into smaller polymers. Similar to the human
    bodies first steps in breaking down carbohydrates.

    Though these polymers are derivatives of dextrose,
    Maltodextrin is complex in nature and has a slower digestion
    time. These glucose polymers are metabolized at a slower
    rate compared to it’s “sister” compound dextrose, and should
    be used accordingly during sporting activities.

    Maltodextrin has a very bland taste, very little sweetness
    if any. Maltodextrin easily dissolves into many different
    liquids and needs no blender or shaker to be palatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rules
    Why isn't a complex carb (like ground oats) additive sold by TP? Could you do a quicky explanation of the available carbs as well?
    The only time I add carbs to my shakes is post workout and at that time you want simple carbs ie Dextrose.

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    Thanks Easto. I add carbs to all my shakes as I only weight 149 lbs (it can't hurt). Would you recommend a short acting protein along with the simple carbs? Would the carbs be gone before the complete uptake of proteins such as Calcium Caseinate or Micellar Casein? Basically can a meal replacement shake be custom mixed?

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    If you check out the trueprotein website they have some custom blends on there. If non of them are what you are looking for, you can customize your own with any protein, carbs, fat, sweeteners, flavours you want.

    Also, it depends when you are going to be taking your whey. For example, after a workout you want something fast acting, but at night and during the day I would prefer something that is absorbed a little more slowly.

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    Thanks again Easto, if TP customer support is 1/2 as fast I'm sure I will be very happy.

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    awseome info Easto

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    It is straight off the site .. don't give me credit. I just thought it would be helpful to copy it over here. TP has some great info... check it out.

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    What protein source is best for night before bedtime? I usually just eat 3 or 4 egg whites. I read in some threads about adding olive oil to the night shake so it's more long acting. It makes sense.

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    They have got two special blends for prebed and nighttime/middle of the night:

    [url]http://www.trueprotein.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=528[/url]
    [url]http://www.trueprotein.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=529[/url]

    You might want to get one of these as they are slow digesting proteins!

    Hope this helps,

    Dave
    Last edited by Number6; 06-26-2005 at 06:33 PM.

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    Try to eat a solid meal before bed. If you down a shake it won't stay with you for very long.

    Get some lean cuts if meat and chow down on those before bedtime... far better than a protein powder.

    Or use both.

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    or some chow and a slow acting egg time released protein? before bed

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    steak or venison is good b4 bedtime sloooow digestion

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    Default Egg n Rice Proteins are Working
    After having gastric distress (gas, bloating, and diarrhea) for months I eventually realized it would peak on and after weight-lifting days. Wondering if it might be the whey protein, I added lactase pills. No help. Then I decided to just cut out whey. But what to replace it with? I reviewed the amino-acid profiles and decided that egg and [url="http://www.nutribiotic.com/riceprotein.htm"]rice[/url] proteins would make a good combination. I was also going egg protein powder with whey. But I anticipated that I'd experience more DOMS (delayed-onset muscular soreness) since based on all I've read, whey is simply the best protein.

    No gastric problems since stopping whey! And to my surprise, after several awesome lifting days over the last week where I even broke a few personal records, I have no DOMS while using only the egg and rice proteins. Moreover, I usually have a lot of DOMS after lifts comparable to this week's level of intensity. I've never done steroids, so that's not a factor here. I've also had that great feeling of muscular fullness you get the day after an awesome workout concurrent with looking bigger, so it's not like nothing is happening.

    So based on my experience, and contrary to my expectations, indicators of muscular development are better for me with egg and rice proteins. Now, this might not be a fair test of whey since I was having so much diarrhea on whey that process may have carried the protein out of me with a lot of water my muscles needed for development. So what I'm reporting may have more to say about alleviating anti-anabolic effects of a dairy allergy than about whey per se. However, even if that's the case, I can certainly say egg and rice protein work very well with intense weightlifting!
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    Default Protein Powders Whats the Difference
    Sho had me cut protein powders out right before the competition. I was eating a lot of chicken, fish, and turkey No egg whites..no powders
    Anyway just a thought But, i would look for one with lower carbs. Especially if u r using it more than once a day.
    I have heard some good things about Natures Best Isopure Zero Carb Powder.
    Any actually try this one yet?

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    Don't know that what's difference in it but I know that whey protein isolate is the best protein supplement to take.

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