ergopharms 1AD and 4AD ?

[Redraider]

Hey guys I had a question about stacking ergopharms 1AD and 4AD. Let me start by telling you guys that I took a 4 week cycle of Gaspari nutritions Methyl-D and recieved little to no gains ending the cycle about a week and a half ago. Within in a week of taking the Methyl-D i stacked it with 4AD. After ending the cycle of methyl D I continued the 4 AD and started stacking it with 1AD. For some reason it takes me high dosages of any prohorme to see any results inwhich I am almost done with the 4Ad and 1AD and am just not starting to see little results and a little water retintion. My question is should I continue with the 4AD and 1AD or maybe just one of these products or should I start PCT ? I really hate to come off inwhich it is just now taking affect. Let me add that I tried 1Ad last summer for 3 weeks in which i was done with the cycle and went up minimal on my lifts. Basically it is hard for me to react to these products where as other people get great gains. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

[cant get BIG]

keep takin the 1ad for about another 8 weeks, or hop on some m1t...u will def get some gains on that

[Redraider]

so i should cut out the 4AD ?

[LankyNibs]

from another site...

Week 1-6 600 mg of 1AD and 600 mg of 4AD

Take in 3 evenly spread doses of 200 mg of each product throughout the day.

This is a dose that allows you to see decent benefits off of 1AD without putting you straight in the poor house. In this instance it's a 6-week iso-stack, using 4AD as the counterpart. Because of the moderate dose and the daily spread you can get a lot out of the 4AD too. This is a very androgenic stack and should under no circumstances be taken by women. The 4AD makes a good partner for 1AD because it enhances the androgenic effect and it repairs a loss of libido that may come with the use of 1AD. Not to mention that these are possibly two of the most anabolic legal substances available today.

Week 1-2 900 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol
Week 3-4 600 mg of 1AD with 600 mg of Nor-diol
Week 5-6 600 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol

Take half the Nor-diol after breakfast and half after dinner, take 1AD spread over 3 even daily doses.

This is a tad more expensive. Ok, a lot more expensive. But this epitomizes a great stack. It's commonly believed that drugs with the effect of 1AD should be stacked with a non-androgen. And the most potent non-androgen is Nor-diol. It's a bit of a combination between a ski-slope and a teeter stack that should give great results for the small amount of time you are on it.

Normally I would recommend the use of 19Nor so there is no over saturation of the 3-beta enzyme that could compromise the conversion of the 1AD. But with the cost of 1AD I sincerely doubt that anyone can afford to take enough (or would want to) to saturate the enzymes.

[BiggerthanLavar]

what sides will be experienced with this stack? what about PCT?

[Redraider]

Beautiful. I appreciate this help I am about to up the dosage !!!!!!!!

[cant get BIG]

still need to use nolva for pct because it shuts u down, u might be able to get away with 6oxo.