creatine brands

[mass rookiee]

what is the best anti-catabolic agent to use to stop the catabolic cycle during sleep ? which creatine brand or transport/creatine actually blows you up some ?

[mass rookiee]

can EAS's brand of anti-catabolic agent HMB stop or slow catabolic effects during sleep ? because labels on supplements always say may or can do something ? so curious if it actually works.

[YellowJacket]

HMB is pretty useless except in high amounts when combined with creatine.

[jynx]

Just get pure creatine monohydrate. Prolab makes a quality one, and it's very cheap.

[mass rookiee]

whats a high amount, suggested dose is 4 pills 3times a day which is 3000mg,and how much creatine for it to be effective ?

[mass rookiee]

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[Frosty]

Dude, why are you asking about reducing catabolism during sleep when I already answered your question? Food is best.

[Frosty]

Ok, here's the deal on creatine.

They're a lot like glycogen in a way. Like if you carb deplete and then exercise, if you give your body enough carbs you can SUPERsaturate glycogen stores. This means that instead of 100% (which is full normal stores) you might get 150% storage.

With creatine it's the same. If you exercise and take it after, you can supersaturate creatine stores. So if you don't exercise that day, then you didn't deplete the creatine stores and there is no stimulus to store anything. If you're over 100%, which you should be if you take it after lifting, then taking more without a stimulous does nothing. That means you basically waste it on off days.

So you should load for the first week, 20g a day spread out, but once you finish that you can go to 5g after workouts, but 3g would be the minimal does (bigger guys would need more).

[mass rookiee]

then what are anti-catabolic agents used for if food is best ?

[Frosty]

Originally posted by mass rookiee
then what are anti-catabolic agents used for if food is best ?

To make money from gullible people.

[bensanderson]

Frosty is right. Nutrition is the key.
If you are worried about catabolism while you are sleeping, take a slow digesting protein, like soy, before going to sleep.

[Frosty]

Originally posted by bensanderson
Frosty is right. Nutrition is the key.
If you are worried about catabolism while you are sleeping, take a slow digesting protein, like soy, before going to sleep.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Not soy! That stuff is shit!

Casein (milk protein) or meat works fine, though