4-androstenediol

[mass rookiee]

Is it 3 times stronger then test, Ive read it does not convert into dht but is it possible it can just like dbol can ?

androstenediol is a (pro hormone).

[mass rookiee]

I want to replace test with 4-androstenediol for next bulk cycle with deca/eq. because the only sides Ive recieved from test is thinning hair unless the dbol helped thinning too!

[AssItch]

Whoa, hang on there, the 4ad is just a precursor to testosterone. It converts at ~15%. So it is most certainly NOT 3 times as strong as test, though it has its uses. Any side that test possesses, 4ad can give as well.

[pullinbig]

4ADne IM is very potent. it has stand alone anabolic activety and also strong conversion properties ( the best of both worlds). i have done boat loads of it and it is a remarkable hormone. it is just as potent as test (more so mg for mg). not 3x stronger but deffinately not 15% as effective. make sure to get the 4ADne for injection. orally it is not effective unless you find some 17aa methylated. and the cyp for inject has mixed reviews. there is a decanoate version but i have not tried or know anybody who has.

the biggest advntage to 4adne is the recovery time boost it gives. it is incredible the diff it makes. i could squat heavy and 3 days later my legs where ready to go again. the draw back is 4adne isd irritating to soft tissue so some folks have probs with injects. not all but some. at concentrations of 75mg/ml it is doable. 50 seems to optimum for comfort. hope this helps.

[gallmond1977]

I have taken a cycle of 19-nor-250 and seen great results. However, I have noticed symptoms of Gyno. What can I take LEGALLY to combat those nasty side effects?

[pullinbig]

dont know about leagally but i use arimidex to control sides. very effective.

[AssItch]

pullinbig, you got me thinking about 4adne again, but I just never could get the shit into solution. Got any tricks?

[pullinbig]

i have tried everything to get it to solution. no go. the closest i came was with peg400, 2% ba and 15% bb. it held for several days before going to suspension. it is still very doable. that was at 100mg/ml. it may have held at 50-75 i didnt try. i even used A's solution and it goes to suspension. no biggy though, it still rocks.

[mass rookiee]

wait 4-ad for injection but its a pro hormone I didnt think they sell injectable pro hormones. can I buy either powder or injectable at GNC ? and most important how likely is 4-ad to convert into DHT on a scale of 1-6 ? 6 being very high conversion of dht and 1 being slim to none. and this is for 4-androstenedione not diol.
thanks.

[mass rookiee]

?

[pullinbig]

it is not available at gnc.

4-Androstenediol is not only a potent precursor to the anabolic hormone Testosterone, it is actually a true active anabolic steroid in its own right as well. Indications are that it has a relative anabolic potency to Testosterone on order of 95%. Furthermore

4-androstenediol appears to exhibit greater promotion of recovery perhaps through its
ability to increase HCT and RBC to a marked degree. 4-Androstenediol has a very
pronounced effect on nerve excitation as well. This compound is certainly much more than its previously denoted classification of a prohormone. It is a unique Anabolic/Androgenic
Steroid with its own unique characteristics. Of course though there remains some of its
effects from pure conversion to Testosterone itself.

[mass rookiee]

does it promote growth or just boost your own test levels ? not sure what HCT and RBC are.

[pullinbig]

hct is red blood cell count and size while RBC is red bllods cells.

i just answered you questions in above post

[mass rookiee]

you speak to technical for me. does it promote growth, I know its anabolic so does it promote growth ? where can you get it (link).

rook.

[pullinbig]

anabolics promote growth.

here's a tip that may help you. next time you read a word you dont know, look it up in the dictionary. not being a smart ass just helping you too understand.

http://www.m-w.com/home.htm

until you become more familiar with a substance perhaps you need to study a bit more. dont put stuff in you body on what someone else said is good. learn it on your own.

how old are you? how long you been training and what are your goals? these all factor into a decision on what hormones to use and not to use.

[doppleganger41]

just to speak from my own experience... i ran topical 4ad with topical 19-diol (both dermabolics)... did they work?... yessir. i have never ever had any sides from 19-nor, but the 4ad caused EXTREME hairloss after about 3 weeks (i'm not prone to mpb either... at least i thought i wasn't... that mother's father stuff isn't true). anyway, 4ad DOES work... but there can be sides. good luck!

[pullinbig]

Originally posted by doppleganger41
just to speak from my own experience... i ran topical 4ad with topical 19-diol (both dermabolics)... did they work?... yessir. i have never ever had any sides from 19-nor, but the 4ad caused EXTREME hairloss after about 3 weeks (i'm not prone to mpb either... at least i thought i wasn't... that mother's father stuff isn't true). anyway, 4ad DOES work... but there can be sides. good luck!

nice post amigo. real life data. very nice. we need more posts like this on this board.