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Rookie
 Methyl-1-test
i just ordered methyl-1-test from [url]www.kilosports.com.[/url] From my understanding i just take it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, one cap a day. What should i take to get my balls back to size and working proper. I think i am only going to do 2 cycles of this because me and my friend are going half what do you think.
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Rookie
also what could i take so i dont get ***** tits
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Novice
I believe you will actually be getting M-ONE-T brand by Gispari Nutrition
M-1-T will not aromatize, no worries 4 "***** Tits"
Use Nolva 4 PC
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Rookie
Nolva 4 PC < whats that for?
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Rookie
by the way do you think the m-1-t works? and how should i take the nolva 4 pc?
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Novice
Like the reply above no worries on the ***** tits I did a 4 week cycle at 25 mg not problems with the balls either.My choice is 6-0xo for the off cycle (help keep your gains)
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Rookie
how long should i take the 6-0xo and where could i buy that or if you know of something at gnc i could bu y, that will either help my balls come back just in case it happens and and something so i could keep my gains? Anyone know the website for underground labs?
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Rookie
i suggest u read up alot more on M1T and PCT before you jump into a cycle of it....very potent stuff.....make sure u understand what u are doing first
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Novice
ProteinFactory carries something called post-cycle.
If you want to stick w/ OTC, the 6-OXO or the post-cycle should work.
Check the drugprofiles section on the board 2 answer FAQ's
about nolva. MassMachine is giving you very good advice,
do your homework. There are alot of conflicting viewpoints
on the board about M1T. Most people who've taken it will agree
that it is potent and should be respected. 1 of The Doc'S on this board
shared alot of good technical info on M1T. SpikedLizard has
kept close track of his progress using M1T. Do a little searchin'& readin'
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Rookie
i have been doing nothing but reading about this product. Does gnc sell any of these products? and what does OTC stand for? Tweekt-out, i appricate all of your help.
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Junior Bodybuilder
OTC = Over The Counter
Be prepared to kill your appetite. Steroids usually increase appetite, but this shit kills it. I still have a few days left, but it's so hard to gain weight because you feel like puking instead of eating.
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Rookie
hey thats really good then because i want to lose weight and gain muscle its all good.. anyone know the website for underground labs ?
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Rookie
6-OXO< who carries that and what could i take to get my balls back working? i appricate anyones help
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Originally posted by jackstin
Nolva 4 PC < whats that for?
Nolvadex® (tamoxifen citrate)
"Nolvadex®, is the trade name for the drug tamoxifen citrate, it is a non-steroidal agent that demonstrates potent anti-estrogenic properties. The drug is technically an estrogen agonist/antagonist, which competitively binds to estrogen receptors in various target tissues. With the tamoxifen molecule bound to this receptor, estrogen is blocked from exerting any action, and an anti-estrogenic effect is achieved. Since many forms of breast cancer are responsive to estrogen, the ability of tamoxifen citrate to block its action in such cells has proven to be a very effective treatment. It is also utilized successfully as a preventative measure, taken by people with an extremely high familial tendency for breast cancer. While Nolvadex is effective against estrogen, it is not our strongest available remedy. We now have the drugs Arimidex, Femara, and Aromasin available to us, which notably prevents estrogen from being manufactured in the first place. Altering the effect of estrogen in the female body can cause a level of discomfort, so anti-estrogens are most bearable when used after the point of menopause. Since Nolvadex is milder in comparison, it is more widely applicable and usually the first treatment option.
As discussed earlier, an enzyme in the male body (aromatase) is capable of altering testosterone to form estradiol. The structure of estrogen is actually quite similar to testosterone, so its presence in the male body is not all that remarkable. Since this same enzyme can also aromatize many anabolic/androgenic steroids, the buildup of estrogens can be an important concern during intake. High levels can cause a number of unwanted side effects, a primary worry being gynecomastia or the development of female breast tissue in men. This can be first noticed by the appearance of swelling or a small lump under the nipple. If left to progress it can turn into a very unsightly development of tissue, often irreversible without surgery. Estrogen can also lead to an increase in the level of water retained in the body. The result here can be a notable loss of definition, the muscles beginning to look smooth and bloated due to the retention of subcutaneous fluid. Fat storage may also be increased as estrogen levels rise. This hormone is in fact the primary reason women have a higher body fat percentage, and different fat distribution (hips/thighs) than men. Individuals sensitive to the effects of estrogen will usually be sure to have an anti-estrogen on hand when taking problematic steroids, so as to minimize the impact of related side effects.
This drug also shows the ability to increase production of FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone) in the male body. This is accomplished by blocking negative feedback inhibition caused by estrogen at the hypothalamus and pituitary, which fosters the release of the mentioned pituitary hormones. This of course is also the function of Clomid and cyclofenil. Since a higher release of LH can stimulate the Leydig's cells in the testes to produce more testosterone, Nolvadex can have a positive impact on one's serum testosterone level. This "testosterone stimulating" effect is an added benefit when preparing to conclude a steroid cycle (post cycle therapy or PCT). Since most anabolic/androgenic steroids will suppress endogenous testosterone production, Nolvadex can help restore a balance in hormone levels. Nolvadex should be preferred over Clomid for this purpose in fact, as side by side it is clearly the stronger agent. It has also been shown to increase LH responsiveness to Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone after time, while Clomid slightly lowers this sensitivity as the drug is used for several weeks..
In some cases the use of only an estrogen antagonists such as Nolvadex or Clomid may be sufficient for testosterone stimulating purposes, particularly when halting the use of a milder or shorter steroid program (which should have a less pronounced impact on the hormonal system). With stronger cycles most option to enhance the stimulating effect of these drugs with HCG, a hormone that mimics the action of LH. HCG use provides an excessive level of stimulation to the testes, which in essence may shock them out of a prolonged state of inactivity. In such a condition the Leydig's cells may not be producing a normal amount of testosterone, even though the normal release of gonadotropins has been achieved. Nolvadex can be tricky at this point. Remember it only blocks the effect of estrogen that is present in the body. If it is removed at a time when estrogen levels are still unusually high, related side effects can quickly become a pronounced problem. Since HCG not only increases the production of testosterone but also enhances the rate of aromatization in the testes, anti-estrogens should not be discontinued until at least a couple of weeks after HCG is discontinued. The result otherwise of course could be many unwanted side effects that were previously under control. When using Nolvadex to ward off the effects of estrogen during the cycle, it should similarly not be removed until the user is confident that hormone levels are well under control. With a drug such as Sustanon, this may mean continuing it for several weeks after the last shot.
A typical daily dosage for men is in the range of 10 to 30mg, the amount would be dependent on the level of effect desired. It is advisable to begin with a low dosage and work up, to avoid taking an unnecessary amount. The time in which Nolvadex is started also relies on individual needs of the user. If an athlete with a known sensitivity to estrogen is starting a strong steroid cycle, Nolvadex should probably be added soon after the cycle had been initiated. If estrogen is probably not going to be a major problem during the cycle (but will likely be after), Nolvadex is administered around the time exogenous steroid levels will drop. It will be continued for some weeks after, until the point when natural testosterone is thought to be at an acceptable level. As mentioned HCG is often used at this point as well (see related profile for more detail). Women have also utilized Nolvadex in an effort to reduce the effect of their own endogenous estrogens. This can lower body fat concentrations, especially in stubborn areas like the hips and thighs. This is of course risky, as manipulating the effect of estrogen can become uncomfortable in women. Side effects like hot flashes, menstrual irregularities and a variety of complications with the reproductive system are all possible.
When looking for a stronger anti-estrogenic effect, Proviron can make a good addition to Nolvadex. Although this compound is technically an androgen, it may have a pronounced effect on the production of estrogen in the body. Its mode of action is therefore very different than that of Nolvadex. While Nolvadex only blocks the binding ability of free-floating estrogen, Proviron can minimize the creation of it. With each drug attacking estrogen via a different mechanism, we have a very synergistic combination. A daily intake of 20-30mg Nolvadex and 25-50mg Proviron can be extremely effective when dealing with a strong estrogenic cycle. Women often avoid adding Proviron to Nolvadex treatment (thought often it is still used to enhance fat loss), for fear of developing virilization symptoms (Proviron is an oral DHT). Virilizing effects can occur very quickly once there has been a dramatic rise in the activity of androgens (intensified by a decrease in estrogen activity), so at a minimum women should be careful with such a combination.
Of great interest also is that Nolvadex is an estrogen agonist in the liver, capable of activating the estrogen receptor and mimicking the actions of this sex hormone in this region of the body. As such it can have a markedly positive impact on HDL (good) cholesterol values, as does estrogen. Many similarly use this drug to counter some of the negative consequences of steroid use in regards to cholesterol values and cardiac risk, as steroids often suppress HDL and raise LDL levels considerably. in some instances an athlete is able to maintain a very favorable HDL/LDL cholesterol ratio, to spite the use of a moderate dosage (400mg weekly) of an injectable like testosterone or nandrolone. It would be foolish to think however that Nolvadex would be a sufficient remedy with the heavy use of c-l7alpha alkylated orals or extremely high dosed cycles in general.
It has been reported by many however that Nolvadex seems to slightly reduce to gains made during a steroid cycle. It appears that many androgenic/anabolic steroids will exhibit their most powerful anabolic effect when accompanied by a sufficient level of estrogen. This may be one reason why gains made with a strong androgen like testosterone are usually much more pronounced than when using an anabolic that aromatizes to a lower degree. It therefore seems like good advice to be aware of how much Nolvadex is actually needed before committing to it during a cycle. Many people in fact find it unnecessary, even when utilizing problematic compounds such as testosterone or Dianabol. Others however find they are troubled by water retention and gynecomastia, even with milder anabolics like Deca-Durabolin and Equipoise. The estrogenic response to steroid use is very individual, and may be influenced by factors such as age and body fat percentage (adipose tissue is a primary site of aromatization).
Nolvadex is certainly the most popular anti-estrogen used by athletes today, no doubt because it is simply an effective product. It is also widely manufactured, and easy to obtain. Since there never seems to be a lack of supply, there is little incentive to manufacture a counterfeit product. All of the various generics forms of this drug are no doubt trustworthy. Women should remember to be very cautious when considering the use of Nolvadex, as they are usually very sensitive to changes in the activity of estrogen. Men looking for a stronger anti-estrogenic effect may want to consider using Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin , three powerful new anti-aromatase compounds. They are much more effective for estrogen control."
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Rookie
Wow could u sum that up, all i want is something that will bring my balls back to normal and my sexual performance. And something that will let me keep my gains. All bought over the counter at a normal store gnc, cvs ect
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Just look into 6-0xo or the supplement post cycle from protein factory.
Your nuts won't shrink on this stuff if you use it the way everyone else has used it. 2 weeks on, 2-3 weeks off. Even if you use it for 3-4 weeks your nuts should be ok. You also won't get tits (or at least you shouldn't).
Just worry about your energy levels, blood pressure, and your liver.
The best thing for you to do for PCT is to Eat smart, workout hard, and get enough sleep. Take your vitamins and drink a lot of water.
Take a supplement for your liver like milk thistle. And look into CoQ-10 for your heart.
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Rookie
i appricate everyones help when i get the mp1t i will let everyone know about how it worked for me
ill keep you posted
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Rookie
i cant order anything i need to be able to buy it at gnc, walmart, cvs, rite aid, fitness headquarters ect. something so i keep my gain
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Novice
You can find 6-OXO at a Health Food/Vitamin place.
To sum up Nolva, it helps get your body back to normal.
The difference between Nolva & 6-OXO is that Nolva is
a "drug" while 6-OXO is a "supplement"
I don't know where in the US you live, but I know there are vitamin stores that carry M-1-T . You might have to ask 4 it by name.
Bro, you should really take the time to read spikedlizard's
thread(s) in regards to M-1-T.
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Novice
I know, I know you already ordered M-1-T.
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Rookie
in the us no1 cells m-1-t, what do i take that will keep my gains, that could be bought a gnc or something like that?
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Junior Bodybuilder
I tried to PM you but it didn't work. A few weeks ago, I ordered some Tamoxifen off Power Nutrition's website, but it looks like they aren't selling anymore. They must have gotten scared.
I would find a way to order M1T over the net. Go to 1fast400.com. You will obviously need a credit card, so if you don't have one, get a buddy. I have no idea about what to buy from GNC, as all the illegal stuff is so much better.
I can't say how this has worked for me thus far. I would guess that I gained 2 lbs tops. My girl hit the road after 6 years last week so I lost a lot of weight and it's hard to tell. It's back now, and my strength has gone up, just not significantly, and I can't rule out the placebo effect because I was expecting much more.
I did the recommended 10mgs a day, but a lot of bros here say that is too little, I upped to 15 and today took 20, but that means I will run out of pills before schedule. If you do decide to do it, the bottles are $10 apiece. Get 2 and do 20mg/day. I would prob not do this again, though, because of the appetite thing. It sounds all well and good, in theory, but if your body isn't taking in enough food, how do you expect it to grow? You need food-energy to work out, right?
Most real steroids increase appetite. This factors in big, in the end because your body has had a reason to grow. With M1T, it just seems like you're fighting your body. You have to force-feed yourself. I would be complacent right now on this stuff with one meal a day plus my protein. That's not right.
I guess I'm just torn as to how this can be hyped when you have to try twice as hard to get big. I probably could've gotten bigger without this and actually eating heavy. I really do have to struggle to eat.
That's my 2 cents, and I know a lot of bros swear ny this stuff, but you need input from both sides of the spectrum.. Wish me luck and good luck to you too.
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Junior Bodybuilder
As far as your nuts go, if they do actually shrink up, only time will heal them. Read the Sticky by Swale in the anabolic discussion.
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Novice
prohormones just are down right a waste of money Realgear is the only way
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Junior Bodybuilder
Wow, this thread is back...
Well, I had a buddy who wanted to frow. I recommended he try this at double the recommended dose I was taking. He did 20mgs/day and within 2 weeks he was up 14 ponds and his max bench was over 20 lbs up.
Take that for whats its worth.
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