I've yet to start my cycle, but I went ahead and took my before pics:
I obviously didn't have any help in taking these pictures. Thus I didn't take any pics of my legs but they're up to par with the rest of my body.
-I'm 22
-I'm 5'8"
-140 lbs.
-8.6% body fat
-3 strong years of lifting, minus December '05, and recently came off torn right quadricep in May-July '06. Lost 16 lbs. during that from sitting around for 3 months b/c i literally couldn't do anything else.
-I'm currently on a bulking routine, coming of a strength/power routine to get my pre-torn quad strength back.
-I take in 3.6k-4k calories a day.
-Don't ask me why i'm at 140 lbs. plateau. I cut out all cardio, pure bulk, big diet and still no gains.
you way to light, i deffinatly wouldnt go for gear till your atleast 170+, you just need to change your routine or eating habbits, stop the cardio for abit. you can always gain weight.
Cardio has been gone for a month+. I've been on 3.6k-4k calories intake a day diet 6 months pre-torn quad and the past 2 or 3 months post-torn quad. I change up my routine to prevent stagnation and it's currently bulk style.
You didn't mention your age. At 18 I looked a lot like you. At 24 I had put a ton of mucsle on. At 29 I looked nice and BIG. Lots of "Duhhh he do steroids that why he big". At 31 I had done all I could do naturally and added the gear. I have no regrets waiting that long but it does take patience and commitment. Do what you want everyone's different but do it safely.
Well, 6k calories would be too hard for me to take in, and I've been on 4k forever while working out and i can't ever seem to get past 140. I've tried for the past nearly 2 years. As for the gear, I was just gonna do the usual newb cycle of test e to get things going. I'm not trying to become a super hero, i'm just trying to get past this plateau. 4k+ calories makes me nearly throw up I eat so much. 6k is improbable in my mind. As for my routines, I know what I'm doing, I've even gone as far as to read Baechle/Earle's "Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning" b/c I'm a nerd with alot of free time. I'm just a stereotypical ectomorph. It's hard for me to gain weight compared to endomorph type people and mesomorph type people.
I think maybe you should really magnify your diet - are you sure your getting 4k calories in? I've never seen someone plateau at your weight on 4k cals.
If you are going to cycle anyways, do it right. 500mg a week, use HCG throughout, have proper PCT. Have something on hand to combat gyno.
Well, 6k calories would be too hard for me to take in, and I've been on 4k forever while working out and i can't ever seem to get past 140. I've tried for the past nearly 2 years. As for the gear, I was just gonna do the usual newb cycle of test e to get things going. I'm not trying to become a super hero, i'm just trying to get past this plateau. 4k+ calories makes me nearly throw up I eat so much. 6k is improbable in my mind. As for my routines, I know what I'm doing, I've even gone as far as to read Baechle/Earle's "Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning" b/c I'm a nerd with alot of free time. I'm just a stereotypical ectomorph. It's hard for me to gain weight compared to endomorph type people and mesomorph type people.
That was exactly what I said before I really started eating and training heavy (deadlift, squat, bench).
Look at my old pic. I was smaller than you at 26 years old (125 lbs 5'8). Now I'm 180 lbs 13%bf and still natural. Maybe I'll hit gear after 200 lbs.
I was about to use steroids when I followed the advice of people around here who told me to stay natty. I even had bought the stuff and I still have it on my closet.
I started growing when I learnt the meaning of "forcefeeding" myself.
Belive it. At 140 lbs 5'8 you don't need gear.
edit: added a "after" pic
Last edited by luquillo78; 09-29-2006 at 04:06 PM.
well said...i completly agree with luquillo. I am also a natty ans i started out at 5'7 120 when i was 18 and now i am 22 and i am 168 and the heavist i have been is 180. You can def gain alot more naturally before hitting gear...and i am top heavy so i have like 20 pounds of growth in my legs...anyways keep hitting it natty, goodluck
I started this lifting thang at 135lbs - I used to say the same shit man. I know you want this NOW. But also, BELIEVE me if you can get past a paltry 140, your doing something really wrong that steroids just wont help.
4 hours b/c of my schedule. People are telling me either eat more, or eat more often. I'm going to my local vitamin world Monday, to restock on protein, and I plan on buying power bars and other things of that nature, to push myself to the limits everyone here is saying i can reach. I will eat more and more often. I'll eat my 4 times a day, and I will eat power bars and extra snacks between every 2 hours.
no offence to you and prob not the only one thinking of this...but ur chuggin down a lot of shakes and crap food. I dont see anywhere EGGS, STEAK, CHICKEN, RICE!!! i no ur having difficulty eating with the time factor but u need to include these atleast. Protein powders, pills and what not will never replace whole foods
hey, thanks for the info. Yeah, I do eat eggs AND daily, usually 2 a night, boiled. Chicken and rice only happen if i'm occasionally having it for dinner, but i do have it OFTEN at lunch. i.e. chinese food (sweet 'n sour chicken with brown rice, or chicken fried rice), italian food (chicken fettucinni, grilled chicken), mexican food (chicken enchiladas, beef enchiladas), american food (grilled chicken, sirloin steaks, grilled fish, grilled shrimp, occasional fried shrimp). Dinner is more variable and is usually steak and potato based since i'm a texan and that's how we roll.
I just find it hard to make time to eat or cook on all my days
Here's a more in depth schedule:
Monday is easy:
-8am - wake up, eat every 4, off the entire day, workout 1-2 hours anytime.
Tuesday:
-8am - wake up, shower, protein shake, go to class.
-9:30am-12:20pm - class
-12:20pm-1pm - 40 minute lunch break, eat (i wish it was longer but i screwed myself when i made my schedule)
-1pm-2:20pm - class
-3pm - free for the night, and usually workout between 5 and 8 somewhere.
-4pm - protein shake
-8pm - Dinner, protein shake, eat.
-10pm - snack.
-11pm - sleep.
Wednesday:
-8am - wake up, eat every 4, off the entire day, workout 1-2 hours anytime.
-11pm - sleep
Thursday:
-8am - wake up, shower, protein shake, eat, go to class.
-9:30am-12:20pm - class
-12:20pm-1pm - 40 minute lunch break, eat
-1pm-3:50pm - class
-4pm-5pm - Racquetball with my friend, then eat, protein shake
-5:30 - free for the night, and usually workout between 6 and 8 somewhere.
-8pm - eat, protein shake.
-9pm - sleep.
Friday:
-5am - wake up, shower, protein shake, eat, go to work
-7am-7pm - work.
-9am - eat.
-1pm - lunch, eat.
-5pm - eat.
-8pm-9pm - Dinner, protein shake.
-9pm-10pm - go to sleep.
Saturday:
-5am - wake up, shower, protein shake, eat, go to work
-7am-7pm - work.
-9am - eat.
-1pm - lunch, eat.
-5pm - eat.
-9pm - Dinner, protein shake.
-11pm - go to sleep.
Sunday:
-8am - wake up, eat every 4, off the entire day.
-11pm - sleep
Ha, ok...so i have sunday, monday and wednesday completely off, which aren't problems for food intake, the other 4 days are problems though, which is why i plan on getting power bars, protein bars, etc. to eat between meals
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