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well first off you look really good man, congrats on your conditioning... I would recommend a cycle toward the higher end of what your looking to run (400-500mg)... and with the way you look now you should be able to put on some serious size
good luck
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Lookin awesome man. I'd do a nice clean bulk and you'd look just the same but bigger. Hit those calfs hard tho!!! hehe
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you look great man...phonomenal for 20, i'm almost 22 and it makes me look like a shitshow.....definatly hit the 400-500 range bro, you'll be stoked, don't forget pct.
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Id stick with the upper end too, probably 500mg week. Youre further along than most guys with 3 or 4 cycles under their belt already. Dont expect to blow up even though its your first though.
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i appreciate the feedback guys, I was leaning more towards the 500 mg per week range. Quick question, with the Test E, how long should I wait post cycle to start the nolva?
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i've heard 2-3 weeks....the ammount you are taking should make a difference in that also. I waited 2 weeks and it ended up well. wait for some professional feedback tho
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Damn bro. Great physique for 20 years old with no gear. I'll be interested in seeing what one cycle will add to it. Keep us posted.
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You've done a very nice job. Best of luck on the cycle.
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 Originally Posted by non-stop
i appreciate the feedback guys, I was leaning more towards the 500 mg per week range. Quick question, with the Test E, how long should I wait post cycle to start the nolva?
2 weeks after you last shot of test E, start your Nolva
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Great genetics! Your hard work shows. Are you competing naturally??? Why do you want to start AAS?? Goals?? Just curious because some guys have to run numerous cycles and cut hard to acheive what you already have.
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 Originally Posted by JayC
Great genetics! Your hard work shows. Are you competing naturally??? Why do you want to start AAS?? Goals?? Just curious because some guys have to run numerous cycles and cut hard to acheive what you already have.
No kidding. He looks just like Trevdog and he's 20.
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nice work bro...good luck on round 1!
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what is your workout like?
i agree he is similar to trev
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Thanks for the feedback guys, to answer your questions...I did compete naturally. My first show was back in september, it was an OCB show and I took first in the mens novice division and third in the mens open. I want to use AAS for the same reasons everyone else does, to get bigger and better then I am right now. In the near future i plan on getting involved in fitness modeling, I need to put on about 20 more pounds and shed a little more bf to do so. I may or may not compete again, there is really no money in it unless you make it big time and personally I dont want to be the size of an IFBB pro. Any more questions or comments please feel free to ask
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 Originally Posted by non-stop
Thanks for the feedback guys, to answer your questions...I did compete naturally. My first show was back in september, it was an OCB show and I took first in the mens novice division and third in the mens open. I want to use AAS for the same reasons everyone else does, to get bigger and better then I am right now. In the near future i plan on getting involved in fitness modeling, I need to put on about 20 more pounds and shed a little more bf to do so. I may or may not compete again, there is really no money in it unless you make it big time and personally I dont want to be the size of an IFBB pro. Any more questions or comments please feel free to ask
I don't think you need to get leaner per say, but the juice will give your muscles a different quality than you could acheive otherwise. More density, more vascularity etc.
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agreed, for a fitness model, you won't want to be too much leaner.
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I don't think you need to get leaner per say, but the juice will give your muscles a different quality than you could acheive otherwise. More density, more vascularity etc.
agreed, even guys that are my exact size just look better if their on. I hope to achieve more overall muscularity and density from the cycle. My vascularity is pretty good to begin with but I guess it could always be better.
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Very impressive ..phenomanal conditioning..
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All I can say is WOW. Great work man. I would love to know your diet... Also some more info on your routine. very very impressive. also i would push some more test. at least 500...
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Could have gotten that naturally.
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could have gotten what naturally? I am natural..I havent started a cycle yet
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 Originally Posted by Andru1313
All I can say is WOW. Great work man. I would love to know your diet... Also some more info on your routine. very very impressive. also i would push some more test. at least 500...
i disagree... the more is not necessarily better and especially for a first cycle...
I was 221 and ran my first cycle of 400mg/wk and gained 26 pounds
non-stop will do just fine with 400mg - 500mg a week
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I was just worried that 500mg was too much for my first cycle, but it seems like everyone here thinks thats what I should run. I guess I will take all your advice and do 500mg a week. Do you all think I should start with 500 or maybe start with 250 then up it 2-3 weeks in?
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 Originally Posted by non-stop
I was just worried that 500mg was too much for my first cycle, but it seems like everyone here thinks thats what I should run. I guess I will take all your advice and do 500mg a week. Do you all think I should start with 500 or maybe start with 250 then up it 2-3 weeks in?
dont pyramid... generally with a moderate dosage of test (ie. 500mg/wk) the sides wont be too much and you will be able to handle them without any problems
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