13% ? wtf?

[mabusincarnate]

OK, flame me all you want. I know I'm small. That's why I'm here. The most gear I've done at a time was 400mg/week of test e. I'm going on another cycle at the end of april. I was super super skinny in high school when I played tennis. I'm completely cold in this pic.

The reason I'm posting this is because a trainer at the local gym told me that I'm over 13% body fat. Is she right? I was thinking I was way lower than 13%.

I know I have bad bacne. It's getting under control. It looks worse in the pic than it actually is because the white balance was all screwed up on my camera. I've been using clindamycin and it's getting under control. I refuse to use accutane because of its effect on the liver.

Please be gentle but honest....

[Tafman]

why didn't you gain 25-30 lbs on your first cycle?

[outlawtas2]

Definitely lower than 13%, don't worry the gym is probably the worst place to get your BF tested. I think they overdue it on purpose so then can offer you personal training then give you the correct measurements and say "look what we did for you", just my little rant though.

I'd say around 10%, but you need to eat more.

BTW, how bad was your acne and how much did it improve? I had it really really bad on my shoulders, then I started seeing and acne specialist. It's cleared up a little but progress seems to be stagnent now. I was taking Benzaclin, which is just a topical.

[mabusincarnate]

why didn't you gain 25-30 lbs on your first cycle?

i weighed 130 1 year ago

i weigh 180 now

i started the first cycle at 150 pounds and ended it at 168. it was only 200mg/week of test e. i wanted to be safe, given that i was WAY under my max and it was my first time.

i started my second cycle at 169ish and ended it at 181. it was 400mg/week test e.

i'm sitting right at 178-180 now.

my next cycle will be 600mg/week.

i eat just under 4000 cals per day. the hardest thing for me is the diet but i know it's the most important.

i'm still making strength gains while 'off' but i'm not getting any bigger.

BTW, how bad was your acne and how much did it improve? I had it really really bad on my shoulders, then I started seeing and acne specialist. It's cleared up a little but progress seems to be stagnent now. I was taking Benzaclin, which is just a topical.

all the red dots were tiny white heads. i had bad acne in high school so i'm prone to getting it. that's been the only side i get from gear. it looks way worse in the pic than it is in person. they're not nearly that red. they just look like little pink dots.

[MENTZER]

Bro the trainer is a dumbass, you look like you're 13%, may a tad bit over but somewhere in the 13's.

[StylesB]

Mentzer im confused?? The trainer said hes 13% and your " saying hes a dumbass" but did you just say he looks 13% or a bit higher???

[Swellin]

I would put you solidly under 13%.

[BIGFOOD]

I would put you solidly under 13%.

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[StylesB]

lower then 13% to me... you look hungry.. good luck on your next cycle

[Button Buck]

You have to be at least 6'-4 yes? You also appear to have the beginnings of ringworm on your right bicep, is this true also?

[mabusincarnate]

You have to be at least 6'-4 yes? You also appear to have the beginnings of ringworm on your right bicep, is this true also?

i'm about 5'11 - 6'. not quite 6 feet tall. i weigh about 178-180. 181.5 if i have to take a shit. i have a whole lot of work to do.

ring worm on my bicep? lol. no. that's a big ass pimple that i popped and it got all red. the redness on everything is exagerated in the pic because of my camera.

here is a side view from about a month or two ago. i had a little bit of water left on me and i wasn't flexing my abs. this pic was also cold.

[gator_mclusky]

You look solid and on the right track. Eat big and the key is consistency.....a missed workout is NEVER made up.
Also......lose the naked pics. No offense but put on some boxers or something....no flame....serious.

Gator

[mabusincarnate]

You look solid and on the right track. Eat big and the key is consistency.....a missed workout is NEVER made up.
Also......lose the naked pics. No offense but put on some boxers or something....no flame....serious.

Gator

note taken. i'll take care of that when i get home from work.

[BigRonWannabee]

Low teens, 13 isnt a bad guesstimate.

[motawa]

Ya you look lower than the 13% range for me.. hell im 13% and got more fat than you do in the lower abs area..

[mabusincarnate]

nice job.

with what? i'm a twig.

[Trevdog]

I'd bet money you're not over 11%.

[mustanged77]

Mentzer im confused?? The trainer said hes 13% and your " saying hes a dumbass" but did you just say he looks 13% or a bit higher???

Exactly! What the **** is this guy talking about?

[Warmachine]

i weighed 130 1 year ago

i weigh 180 now

i started the first cycle at 150 pounds and ended it at 168. it was only 200mg/week of test e. i wanted to be safe, given that i was WAY under my max and it was my first time.

i started my second cycle at 169ish and ended it at 181. it was 400mg/week test e.

i'm sitting right at 178-180 now.

my next cycle will be 600mg/week.

i eat just under 4000 cals per day. the hardest thing for me is the diet but i know it's the most important.

i'm still making strength gains while 'off' but i'm not getting any bigger.




all the red dots were tiny white heads. i had bad acne in high school so i'm prone to getting it. that's been the only side i get from gear. it looks way worse in the pic than it is in person. they're not nearly that red. they just look like little pink dots.

food is the key buddy, with your body type dont be afraid to bulk a little dirty. dont miss one meal, and youll probobly need more than 4k kcals.
if youre lazy and half the cash muscle milk is great. fast food a few times a week. extra virgin olive oil will get your cals up there, 120 per tablespoon.

good luck and focus on the big lifts. i think you should work hard on cleans and standing military presses.

study this page and apply it for the next 6 monthes and youll be over 200 easy. http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...nts_thread.htm

[MuscleH]

#1 you don't need to be taking juice at your size. You need to eat and learn to lift properly.

[mabusincarnate]

#1 you don't need to be taking juice at your size. You need to eat and learn to lift properly.

i knew i was gonna get that from someone.

big guys don't understand how hard it is for smaller guys to gain muscle. i even have a hard time gaining fat. i was making gains but they were coming slowly and i wanted a boost. i started way small with 200mg/week test e because of my size.

whether your goal is to get to a decent size faster or get over your genetic max.... i don't see much of a difference. as long as i use them safely, i don't see much of a problem.

[motawa]

i knew i was gonna get that from someone.

big guys don't understand how hard it is for smaller guys to gain muscle. i even have a hard time gaining fat. i was making gains but they were coming slowly and i wanted a boost. i started way small with 200mg/week test e because of my size.

whether your goal is to get to a decent size faster or get over your genetic max.... i don't see much of a difference. as long as i use them safely, i don't see much of a problem.

They say that because if you cant reach your own natural limit with just diet and training, you wont be able to keep even 20% of what you gained with the cycle. some first timers will be seriously motivated to dramatically change their diet routine within a week, and hope they will do the same till they die. this is just impossible. But for those who really have tried everything in training and dieting, ah well shoot urself

[mabusincarnate]

They say that because if you cant reach your own natural limit with just diet and training, you wont be able to keep even 20% of what you gained with the cycle. some first timers will be seriously motivated to dramatically change their diet routine within a week, and hope they will do the same till they die. this is just impossible. But for those who really have tried everything in training and dieting, ah well shoot urself

my diet has been right for well over a year. i gained 20 pounds naturally before starting steroids.

if a guy gets big without steroids, then stops eating right and working out like he should, he'll lose just as much weight as the guy who used steroids to get to the same point.

if a guy has the right diet/dedication but uses steroids before reaching a max, he'll keep his gains after he stops using steroids, provided he keeps his diet/dedication if he never got over his max.

steroids will just get me there faster.

[mick-g]

If you are eating right, you are not eating enough in cals. How much protein do you take in a day? Also your age? You are def under 13%, but since you are so lean and i can not see legs/quads, in dif areas you may be holding more bf. For your height and body type you should prob be at least 200lbs or more.

[mabusincarnate]

If you are eating right, you are not eating enough in cals. How much protein do you take in a day? Also your age? You are def under 13%, but since you are so lean and i can not see legs/quads, in dif areas you may be holding more bf. For your height and body type you should prob be at least 200lbs or more.

breakfast: 3 Boost High Protein drinks and a clif bar. 56 grams protein, ~950 cals

snack at my desk till lunch. atleast another clif bar or ritz whole wheat crackers. sometimes fruit but not often usually close to 500 cals.

lunch: arbies, wendys, subway, 2 hungry mans, boston market, jambalaya, or whatever. i dont eat the same thing twice per week for lunch. its usually between 500-800 cals. i have no idea how much protein.

snack at my desk till i leave work. same type snacks as before. it always varies. sometimes i eat pepperoni on crackers, natural peanut butter, etc. around 500 cals before i leave work.

as soon as i get home: half serving of cytogainer plus scoop of 100% whey in whole milk with chocolate syrup. about 1000 calories plus about 45 grams protein

in class: clif bar and boost or clif bar and individual serving muscle milk. 500 cals and 25-50 grams protein, depending what i eat.

dinner: pound of sausage + entire box of seasoned wild rice + veggies. i'm not sure how many cals or protein that is but the box of rice is over 700 cals and i eat the whole thing every night.

before bed: another cyto gainer + 100% whey with whole milk and chocolate sauce

ive been eating like that for well over a year. it's been working but i started from such a low body weight that i had a long way to go. when i first moved out of my parents' house, i was on the poverty diet. i only ate raman and tv dinners and hot pockets.

now you get to make fun of my legs. this is awesome. the trainer didn't caliper anywhere on my legs. i have almost no fat on them at all. i know they're skinny but believe it or not, they're getting bigger.


my goal is 200 pounds. to most of you, that's nothing but they're my goals, not yours. if i start going over 200 pounds, great.

i do a spinning class once a week, if that makes any difference.