Had my first training KO last night!! I'm pretty stoked. As a wrestler, I have no problems with the ground game or my BJJ but I've really been trying to concentrate on my stand up/striking lately. It's starting to pay off. We always live spar w/full contact (little to no pads) but every once in a while on Mui Thai/kick boxing technique nights, we'll get split up and have mock matches at the end. Coach calls two people out and everyone watches them bang it out 5 min's as he crituques you. First round I went the full 5 min's just banging out with one of my training partners, even took a few good hits and didn't flinch. Second round, pulled a fresh guy and 40 sec's into the round, WHAM caught his ass with my over hand right and right on the button. His knees buckled and he dropped hard. Was out for damn near 7 or 8 seconds and it took him over two minutes to collect himself and get up. I felt bad, but damn it felt good!! Even more amazing is that this was with the big fat 16oz boxing gloves, not the small 4oz mma gloves.. which makes it alot harder to KO someone w/one punch. Infact, I can't remember the last time someone dropped in training with the big boxing gloves. I felt like I finally had a break through w/my stand up. I'm now known for my heavy hands..
Isn't this sort of counter productive? not for you, but for the guy on the receiving end?
I don't train in any type of striking, but from my limited knowledge I thought you never went 100% in sparing.
The way I see it, if I put myself in the other guys position it would be a huge knock down in my confidence to get KO'd in training.
I use to think the same way... and actually we only do this once in a while. But the concept behind it is, we are training in MMA so getting hit or being able to take a hit is just as important as hitting. And when you start getting hit, you learn very very quickly to perfect your defenses and KEEP YOUR HANDS UP/use your footwork. It's basically survival training.. We don't fight for points, it's KO and Submissions so if we don't train for that, you'll be in for a rude awakening when you decide to compete. I was completely intimidated when I started training with this team, but the more I got hit, the easier it got to take them. Now when I get hit, I keep trucking and immediately counter strike without thinking... when before, I'd usually ball up and hope they would stop at some point. Make sense now??
JayC is right on the money ,full contact sparring also helps you keep your bearings when you get hit in a real fight whether in the ring or on the street. Lots of people have no idea how they will react when hit. Granted you also do not beat the shit out of your training partner but I feel it's good reality training.
I understand where you are coming from I just think as a coach you need to be careful who you throw in the ring together and you have to make sure the guys are ready to get in there.
Like I said, you can really ruin someone by throwing them in too early. They get knocked out, they lose their confidence, they fight scared, then they quit because it isn't as fun as it used to be.
I have had my bell rung a couple times in hockey and football. A body check from behind and I went head first into the board. And as a Running back in football I took some big time head on head hits. Getting your bell rung and seeing stars is scary shit actually. Add in the rubber legs and... oh shit!!!
I understand where you are coming from I just think as a coach you need to be careful who you throw in the ring together and you have to make sure the guys are ready to get in there.
Like I said, you can really ruin someone by throwing them in too early. They get knocked out, they lose their confidence, they fight scared, then they quit because it isn't as fun as it used to be.
MMA is all about taking shots and learning from them, coming back stronger. That being said I don't think beginners should be sparring with actual fighters.
I understand where you are coming from I just think as a coach you need to be careful who you throw in the ring together and you have to make sure the guys are ready to get in there.
Like I said, you can really ruin someone by throwing them in too early. They get knocked out, they lose their confidence, they fight scared, then they quit because it isn't as fun as it used to be.
I have had my bell rung a couple times in hockey and football. A body check from behind and I went head first into the board. And as a Running back in football I took some big time head on head hits. Getting your bell rung and seeing stars is scary shit actually. Add in the rubber legs and... oh shit!!!
Totally agree there... I was in that spot last year when I started learning striking. I was matched w/same level guys for sparing and had alot of patient older guys as training partners. They took it easy and helped me work my technique. We do take it step by step like this until coach feels you've got the hang of it, then you move up a level. We pretty much keep the newb w/newbs, intermediates together, and fighters w/fighters (during sparing). You also have to remember we aren't a dojo or structured class. It's a fight team... like Team Quest, American Top Team, Militich Camp, etc.. so it's basically aot of guys w/different disciplines and backgrounds coming together under one mma instructor. Our main focus is competition.
Do you not have specific classes on set days and times?
Yes.. It actually works alot like a college or highschool athletic program. It's really no different than the wrestling programs I've been involved with..
The different skill levels kind of rep the classes (fresh, soph, jr, etc.) but we still all train together.
We go five days a week alternating.. Mon-ground/BJJ, Tues-Stand up/Mui Thai, Wed-BJJ, Thur-Stand up.. then Saturday is Open gym and you come in work whatever you think needs working or tweaking. Also its a popular day for bag work, stretching, and small glove sparring for fighters. We also do heavy conditioning on Tue and Thurs after sparring... that's a *****!
Generally it's always 7-9pm but some guys like going in the mornig at 630am so they might organize a week or two of that at a time. I'm not an a.m. person and prefer evenings, as most of us do.
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I'm pretty stoked. As a wrestler, I have no problems with the ground game or my BJJ but I've really been trying to concentrate on my stand up/striking lately. It's starting to pay off. We always live spar w/full contact (little to no pads) but every once in a while on Mui Thai/kick boxing technique nights, we'll get split up and have mock matches at the end. Coach calls two people out and everyone watches them bang it out 5 min's as he crituques you. First round I went the full 5 min's just banging out with one of my training partners, even took a few good hits and didn't flinch. Second round, pulled a fresh guy and 40 sec's into the round, WHAM caught his ass with my over hand right and right on the button. His knees buckled and he dropped hard. Was out for damn near 7 or 8 seconds and it took him over two minutes to collect himself and get up. I felt bad, but damn it felt good!!
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